INPA K+DCAN Interface Compare with Rheingold For BMW Diagnostic Tool
BMW INPA K+DCAN Interface work with EDIABAS for BMW coding service, BMW INPA Cable is simple Ediabas interface, support function of BMW ICOM, but what’s the difference between BMW INPA K+DCAN interface and BMW ICOM? Eobdtool.com share the BMW INPA K+DCAN compare with Rheingold For BMW diagnostic tools.
BMW INPA K+DCAN Interface and ISTA/D (Rheingold) l, which one better?
K+DCAN cable vs BMW ICOM:
|BMW tools||ICOM||INPA K+DCAN cable|
|Cars||New and old BMW vehicles:
E & F series up to 2017
|Old BMW E series (1998 – 2008)
|Cars after 03/2007||Cars prior to 03/2007:
K-Line was used from 1997 onwards by BMW replacing the old L-Line up consistently up until the end of 2006
Inpa/Ediabas, Ncs expert, Winkfp, E-sys, ETK, Easyconnect, Itoolradar, BMW standard tool, coding database, coding tool
|Speed||best speeds should be through an ICOM with the MOST adapter||theoretically faster, but in reality, it isn’t||actually much better speeds|
|Stability||a lot more stable esp. when it comes to programming||less stable||less stable|
|Programming/Flashing||used with diagnosis and also programming||not safe to program modules||not safe to program modules|
|Coding||Read/Write zero issues||R/W with a INPA K&DCAN cable||R/W with a INPA K&DCAN cable|
|Protocol||fast protocol, allows to secure flash software and read/write access the entire memory||slow serial protocol, flashing would take ages and errors could occur. Also, not possible to access the entire memory||slow serial protocol, flashing would take ages and errors could occur. Also, not possible to access the entire memory|
|Similar to||Similar to JTAG programming||Similar to RS232 bootloader access||Similar to RS232 bootloader access|
BMW ICOM can be used with diagnosis and also programming. While INPA K+DCAN cable can do all of those it is not safe to program modules because there have been a lot of cases where modules were bricked. You can only get your 1B file using FSC generator with ICOM on an E series car but cannot generate 1B file using a INPA K+DCAN cable since it will give you an error. There is another way though of getting your 1B file without using an ICOM on an E series through the USB port inside your glovebox accessing the hard drive directly. Rather than going through all those stuff, it is more convenient to just buy the lifetime FSC code and be done with it.
You program a module if you want to update the software to a newer one or if you a retrofitting a new module and want to flash it. BMW ICOM is a lot more stable than dcan cable when it comes to programming. And you are right there are modules that takes hours to finish and any interruption in the process will surely brick that module. You can get a cheap BMW ICOM china clone but finding a refutable vendor selling a good working ICOM is not easy.
INPA software (interpreter for test procedures) is older factory floor diagnostic software for INPA K+DCAN Interface, designed to run test procedures. While INPA can be set for English User Interface, most of the Test Procedures, which can be difficult to find, are in German.
ISTA/D (aka Rheingold) is the current dealership diagnostic software for all Exx and Fxx cars. ISTA/D is the replacement for older dealership DIS diagnostic software. Likewise, ISTA/P is the replacement for older delaership SSS Progman programming software. ISTA/P & ISTA/D are designed to be used with an ICOM Interface, and with full ICOM-A-B-C, you can connect to older cars. The ICOM “C” Connection is for the older BMW ADS 20-pin round “Pacman” connector in Engine Bay. You can find versions of ISTA/D with an ICOM Emulator builtin, that allows you to use it with an ENET Interface for Fxx cars and a DCAN Interface for Exx cars. I don’t know for sure, as I do not do any Exx work, but I doubt ICOM Emulator would work for older ADS connector.
Between the two, ISTA/D is simply a better option. It has a modern interface, is 100% English (or available in a multiple other languages), and is complete in that it does not require additional Test Procedures.
Rhegingold for BMW diagnostic software have ISTA/P & ISTA/D installed on a laptop aside INPA, WinKFP, and BMW INPA without any issues.
INPA and Rheingold, how to choose for different BMW cars?
All Rheingold for BMW Diagnostic software versions have native support for Ediabas 7.x, this option just needs to be activated from istagui config file. I can check the parameter later. This means that INPA K+DCAN can be used directly with Rheingold ISTA, as long as the Ediabas (which comes with BMW Standard Tools) is configured for this interfaces. Setting for Ediabas.ini can be found in Rheingold ISTA settings, under VCI tab (if the config file has been configured correctly). If the interface works with INPA or Tool32, then it works with Rheingold too.
F-series cars can use BMW INPA K+DCAN for diagnosis and ENET for diagnosis + coding and programming:
ADS interface is not supported, as Rheingold requires Ediabas 7.x, and only Ediabas 6.x and older has ADS support. So to use Rheingold with ADS cars, ICOM is mandatory. ADS cars are E36, E34, beginning of E38 production and all chassis models that are older than these. E39, E46 and later E38, and all chassis models made after these are equipped with K-line or D-CAN, so K+DCAN cable (combinated interface that has both K-line and D-CAN) is good for these cars.
If it is K-line, then K+DCAN and obd-20pin adapter can be used:
There are 20-pin connectors in engine compartment on all cars made approximately before year 2000, even if they have OBD-2 connector too. If there are both of these connectors available, then 20-pin must be used as OBD-2 is then connected only to DME/DDE and EGS. 20-pin connector type is K-line or ADS, depending on the chassis model.
There is also ADS interface available, it can be used with INPA on ADS cars:
It can be found from E-bay, and it is called Tiny ADS. This ADS thing talks directly to COM-port i/o memory addresses, so laptop must have native COM port. USB-COM adapter will not work, period. Of course ICOM can handle these cars via ethernet connection, even with INPA. To configure ICOM to work with Ediabas, I-tool radar is used to check ICOM ip address and then EasyConnect can be used to configure ediabas and to lock the ICOM.
Note: How to activate Ediabas support in Rheingold:
Open ISTAGUI.exe.config with notepad
find line with parameter BMW.Rheingold.OperationalMode
change it to this:
Which software for E/F series diagnosis, coding, programing?
If you want meaningful Diagnosis in English, for both E-Series and F-Series cars, you need ISTA/D (Rheingold) and you can request it here:
For Coding, you need different Tools, NCS Expert / SP-Daten for E-Series and E-Sys / PSdZData for F-Series.
All Diagnosis and Coding can be done with cheap DCAN Cable for E-Series and cheap ENET Cable for F-Series.
For Programming (Flashing ECU’s with new Firmware), then you need ISTA/P for for both E-Series and F-Series cars, or you can use WinKFP for E-Series and E-Sys for F-Series. For E-Series Programming, you will need an ICOM, but for F-Series Programming, you can use ENET Cable.
INPA K+DCAN cable vehicle compatibility:
BMW 1 Series: E81, E82, E87, E88
BMW 3 Series: E30, E36, E46, E90, E91, E92, E93
BMW 5 Series: E28, E34, E39, E60, E61
BMW 6 Series: E24, E63, E64
BMW 7 Series: E23, E32, E38, E65
BMW 8 Series: E31
BMW X1 E84
BMW X3 Series: E83
BMW X5 Series: E53, E70
BMW X6 Series: E71
BMW Z Series: Z1-E30, Z3-E36, Z4-E85, E86, E89, Z8-E52
BMW MINI Series: R50, R52, R53, R55, R56, R57, R58, R59, R60, R61
BMW Rolls-Royce Series: RR1
BMW ICOM car list:
work for the diagnosis and programming all BMW models:
BMW E, F, G, I, Alpina series cars, MINI and Rolls-Royce from 1985 – 2017.
For Exx- Series:
Interface = INPA K+DCAN Cable (OBDII to USB) or ICOM
ECU Data Files = SP-Daten
NCS Expert = Coding Software
WinKFP = Programming (Flashing) Software
EDIABAS = Low-Level ECU Communication Software used by NCS Expert & WinKFP
For Fxx- / Ixx- / Gxx-Series, Mini, & Rolls-Royce:
Interface = ENET Cable (OBDII to RJ45 Ethernet) or ICOM
ECU Data Files = PSdZData
E-Sys = Coding Software
E-Sys = Programming (Flashing) Software
ICOM A (also ICOM A2, ICOM A3, ICOM Next A): main interface
ICOM B: adapter for programming multimedia in E series
ICOM C: adapter for old BMW with round 20 pin diagnostic plug
ICOM D: adapter for motorcycles
ISTA+ (AKA Rheingold or ISTA-D)
DIAGNOSTICS for All Vehicles
PROGRAMMING for F/I/G/RR & MINI, but requires an ICOM
PROGRAMMING traditionally for all chassis, but is being phased out by August 2017, except for legacy E-series.
Replacement ECU’s must be NEW
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